You sold me... I'm not going this year...
ER1970... The solution is easy.. don't go!
i know that many of you have not been to distric conventions in some time, but what i am about to describe is a recent trend.. 1. more people than seats.
for the past six or seven years, they've tried cramming too many congregations into one convention hall at one time.
in many cases, if you do not get to the convention more than an hour before the program starts and you need more than a couple of seats, you cannot find seats.
You sold me... I'm not going this year...
ER1970... The solution is easy.. don't go!
i remember in my teen years thinking about the constant warnings of satan "transforming himself into an angel of light" and wondering how in the world did i stand a chance against a demon?!
a demon thats had thousands of years to suss things out and trick people in various different ways without them even knowing.
he led angels to rebellion.
Hi Mrs. Link,
The WTS applies one standard to other religions...
That the Devil would mislead people by religion that outwardly claims to serve God is shown in the Bible...."
But fails to apply it to itself... if we point this out we are labeled as apostates...
Double standards!
work has been really, really crazy lately so i haven't had much of a chance to visit.... .
did i miss anything???
missed you guys!
Good news your hubby may be coming around. Welcome back...
A@G
do you fear death?
i typed in "fear death" into the search feature and it looks like jwd hasn't had a "death thread" in quite a while.
i'd really enjoy hearing the perspectives of current posters.
OM...
Wow:
About once or twice a year, I'll wake up in the middle of the night with these three brilliant revelations:
1. Holy Crap! I'm actually gonna die someday! (As moronic as this sounds, born-in JWs are not taught to believe this. What a mind-screwing!)
2. We all die alone. Even if we have family and friends holding our hand when we pass behind the curtain of death, we must go alone.
3. I don't want to die.
I generally have experienced 1 and 3. As a JW it hit me hard when I turned 35 and I realized that "Millions now living will never die" wasn't going to apply to me. As you say, as a good JW I believed that I would never die.
Actually, I stopped worrying about when I started realizing that JWs don't have the truth. If it's part of a 6-12 month cycle, I'm due for another whack soon...
what expressions get you going?.
i like "it's all good!!!
".
"Does this make me look fat"
hi everyone, i met a bunch of people from the 'ex-jw meetup' at the screening of world's apart last night.
i just wanted to say again how amazing it was to see you there and to talk to you after the movie.
i've been "disfellowshipped" for 10 years, but i don't think i've ever really talked to any ex-jw's in depth like that.
Hi Kyria,
It was nice to talk to you too... I've been raving about the movie and our experience in sharing a dialogue with active JWs and meeting you and your fiancee. I left feeling very happy to be an xJW.
I am sending you a PM.
i am almost a master member here on jwd now.
i feel so much more comfortable here than i did at first.
i love visiting here several times a day and do not mind even the negative comments we get on here anymore.
I just dream about my fellow JWDers....
we are just back from watching worlds apart.
we all thought that this is the best, most accurate movie on this topic that we have ever seen.
i hope to post more on it once i've gotten some rest.
Yes, the depiction of the JC was right on....
Setting:
3 elders and a scared 17 yr old girl in a locked room inside the KH
Sara: I slept at his house but nothing happened
Chairman: Tell us the truth...we know you are lying. Jehovah hates liars!
Sara: [starts to break down] I was sleeping on the bed and he was on the floor. And I invited into the bed, and then we kissed.
Elder2: Did he touch your breasts? {Gasps in the movie theater audience - prob from the non-JWs present}
Sara: [sobbing] Yes.
Elder3: [directly, no subtlety here] Did you have sex? Did he touch you anywhere else? {gasps again in the theater audience, I hear the word 'pervert' uttered}
Sara: [sobbing, insisting] no, no, no, we didn't have sex. [After a pause] But I love him and I want to be with him...
It was interesting, as Isaac mentioned, how the audience felt the emotions. A number were heard sobbing when she was disfellowshipped, and when she re-encountered her brother who had been Dfd for apostasy and that she had previously shunned.
A great movie for both JWs and non-JWs alike, bur especially for exJWs!
Post Movie note... One of the JWs present called me up today, and told me that he had never had the guts to speak to an 'apostate' before. Now thanks to the movie and meeting us, he wants to learn more about becoming an xJW!
A@G
the live telephone conference call is attracting many participants, including active jehovah's witnesses.
interested people from all over the world are dialing up early and staying on late.
the rapidly changing doctrines of the watchtower org.
Rick,
I listened to about an houir of your last call (7:30 to 8:30). I was told that it lasted for several hours.... I like the beginning of it, but I got off as I got tired of hearing the back and forth between you and the so-called anointed MS who was on the phone..... didn't sound believable...
Just IMHO.
it took me a long time to open up this review dvd and watch this film, and because of past studies on cults and the whys and hows; i already have a good understanding of them.
i am not a fan, nor am i of most of the organized respectable faiths either, but at least those congregations usually stay within legal parameters and offer their faithful some peace of mind and community tradition.. cults are different because they cross the lines of propriety.
they are renegades to society and basic human rights, mostly women and children, and are unified by their leaders hubris, hucksterism and sheer strength of mind power.
Randy,
I am actually in the middle of reading Steve Hassan's Mind Control book right now... So I am more convinced than ever about JW cultishness.
But its tough to convince JWs of this fact.